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by sterex 3492 days ago
Yes. There are. There will be a cap on the maximum transaction that can be done using cash. So cash accumulation gets reduced. And hoarding large amounts of cash in physical notes will be dissuaded.
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> There will be a cap on the maximum transaction that can be done using cash.

Thanks, I've been hearing rumors about this too [1]. Would be a welcome step if and when the govt. implements it.

[1]: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/demo...

That could have been done gradually without banning notes. Introducing higher denomination make even more less sense.
> That could have been done gradually without banning notes.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but banning notes is to bring about a few changes like forcing people to declare black money and fighting the counterfeiting industry (just to name a few). Like you pointed out, the cash transaction limit could have been brought into force without banning the notes, but by combining both, isn't the cap more effective in deterring accumulation of black money in the future?

> Introducing higher denomination make even more less sense.

I don't quite understand this. Higher denomination or not, the cap is on the transaction amount, so how are they related?

1. As per a recent estimate, only 6% of black money is kept in the form of cash [1].

2. 33 Death count as of Nov 18 [2].

3. New notes are just as easy to counterfiet as old ones and now with 2x yield [3][4].

You can make your own conclusions.

PS: If you are aware of any stats/study governmental or independent, please let me know.

[1] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation...

[2] http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/demo...

[3] http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rs-2-000-notes-foun...

[4] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/first-fake...

6% is only the official estimate based on IT department raids. In reality, this will be more.

Moreover, if you stub out this 6%, you will arrest leakage of that black money getting converted into land, gold, assets etc.,

See an interesting discussion here, (though this conversation concludes both parties not conceding their point:-):)

https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/5cilgj/cash_has_only...

For a good argument in favor of the move, and for a theoretical perspective on this, even in a developed economy with less paper money %, please see Kenneth Rogoff's blog post and also his book - the "Curse of Cash" (I've not read his book though only his posts and tweets on this)

http://blog.press.princeton.edu/2016/11/17/kenneth-rogoff-in...

Thanks. So if I'm not wrong, what you're saying is even with demonetization and a transaction cap, they will barely make a dent in the state of black money in India. Am I correct?

From what I've read, I would agree with that.

Remove "and a transaction cap" part, you are correct.

Going cashless will solve terrorism and counterfiet problem. World is going cashless and naturally India would have gone too without the huge cost of banning notes.

However I have different issue with this, allow me to quote

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation...

Corruption and black money are a consequence of big government, of one set of individuals having discretionary powers over the actions of others. If Modi was serious about tackling black money, he'd bring about institutional changes that would take us towards the minimum government he had promised in his 2014 campaign. Instead, government keeps getting bigger, controlling more and more of our lives. More government = more corruption.

Also Center/Modi wants to make prosecuting corrupt public officials more difficult and bribe-giving a criminal offence. Considering giving bribe is unavoidable fact-of-life and cost of doing business in India, Center wants to make CEOs responsible [1] [2].

And I say this as someone who voted for Modi.

[1] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation...

[2] http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/brin...