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by tslug 3497 days ago
I'm not overly focused on the concerns of a small minority of the population. The elite have their own challenges, but they have enormous resources with which to tackle them, and while some of them would not be thrilled about high transparency, some would embrace it, just as long as there were better protections for the transparent, which there currently aren't.

I get the sense that I'm upsetting you, and I don't mean to do that. I'm sorry if I said something to offend. I want only to engage in an open discussion about this and to offer a different point of view. I believe in it very strongly, and I have given it a great deal of thought and even given talks on how to operate an economy within such a system. I by no means think it's foolproof, nor Utopian- just better.

I'm currently under deadline and a bit pressed for time, and I feel like we might have a more effective conversation over skype. Feel free to email me at advice@gmail.com if you'd like to swap contact info and chat about it further.

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Well, you might be upsetting me, but not because you are saying something that offends me, but because you don't seem to address my objections, instead just repeating your claims in some form or another, which makes for a very frustrating experience.

It's not that everything you say is wrong, but your conclusion crucially depends on this one central question of whether it is actually more effective at achieving the (implied) goal if you were to try and actually implement it, which seems highly questionable to me, but which you don't even acknowledge is your burden to show. You seem to assume that universal transparency is easier than universal privacy, and based on that you put forward arguments for why a transparent society would be better if it did exist. I might even agree with that conclusion based on that assumption. The part that's missing is how that applies in the real world, how that assumption is actually true in the real world--and my strong suspicion is that that's where your whole idea falls apart in practice, because you are simply ignoring how human psychology and power structures actually work, arguing instead from a completely unrealistic model of power structures that happens to support your conclusions.

I'm sure you believe it very strongly, and even that you have given it a great deal of thought. But have you tried to tear it apart? Do you know how to falsify your idea, do you know what it would take for you to accept that it's all wrong? If not, you might just be reinforcing your own biases without any connection to reality.

As for taking this outside HN, this is unfortunately a pseudonymous account, and as such, I don't connect it to any other identities. But feel free to take some time, chances are I will notice it ;-)