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by oblio 3506 days ago
1995 - circa 2014

Action: Microsoft is hostile to Open Source movement for many years.

Reaction: developers have a deep distrust of Microsoft.

2014 - current day

Action: Microsoft open sources a series of core projects and starts contributing to major Open Source projects.

Reaction: ???
2 comments
scholia 3506 days ago
> 1995 - circa 2014

Microsoft launched CodePlex for open source development in 2006, and it had released some bits of code before that.

Microsoft also started releasing .NET source code in January 2008 under its MS-RSL license [1], so there's been a long transition, not a sudden recent change.

[1] https://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/releasing-the-source-code-fo...

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brianwawok 3506 days ago
Most devs I know not in .net are not gonna jump for this reason. It's so similar to what I can get from Python and Scala and Java... Why would I want to touch the Microsoft ecosystem?

Seems like it will take 10 or 15 years for a new round of college students to switch over.. so it has to be a very long term play.

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pjmlp 3506 days ago
Many of the current generation don't have any issues with Microsoft.

We do mostly Java and .NET projects, and enough juniors get on both stacks.

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brianwawok 3506 days ago
Last time I checked, the better colleges around taught some combo of C, Python, Java, and LISP.

Sometimes a few business classes with .net, but it seems very rare overall.

The professors have a lot of influence in the future..

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0xCMP 3506 days ago
Yea, inexperience with Microsoft would make them think it's okay to do that before these announcements. I agree with parent comment though, not enough to make me come back.

source: C# and .NET were the first languages I taught myself after PHP in 2007-2008.

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pjmlp 3506 days ago
I went back in 2010. My first contact with it was when my employer, a MS partner got an early access to it, still on Alpha stage.

Nowadays I would rather do .NET projects than Java ones, as I already have the language and toolchain features today at my disposal that will only be available (with luck) on Java 10.

Also because neither Sun or Oracle really understand what native development should be like.

JavaFX has everything to compete with XAML, yet it really needs some love.

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