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by thro32 3505 days ago
Retirement age in Japan and Germany is around 65 years. Not everyone qualifies for social benefits (owns house, work history...). And regions like Bavaria are bloody expensive. So yes, some pensioners have to work even in Germany (but it was about Japan in reference to old people).

I would be happy to discus my "questionable ideas". I live in Athens and I actually tried to hire some of them for manual labor. Most of them had better shoes than me, were lazy as fuck, and all want to go to Germany.

To start a discussion, please post employment rates among migrants ;-)

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In Germany you receive welfare no matter of your work history. True, you need to sell your assets, like your house, but I think that's understandable. Your 65 year old retiree would receive ~410€/mo. + costs for an apartment (incl. heating etc). Again, I'm not at all saying that makes a decent living. Just that no one is really FORCED to work there.

Greece has a 25% unemployment rate. Therefore if you did not find anyone wanting to do your job, it must have been a really bad one. Or - my guess - you just didn't offered to pay a reasonable amount.

I don't know the exact employment rate among migrants, but I guess it makes no sense to discuss it here. I'm just sure that, if the unemployment rate amongst the migrants would be low, you were crying about the bad migrants taking over our jobs.

But I found workers, we employ mostly Albanians, some Greeks and one Pakistani who is here for 10 years. It is manual labor in warehouse. But I would expect more interest from "poor refugees who barely escaped the war".

Anyway this discussion is pointless.

> But I would expect more interest from "poor refugees who barely escaped the war".

Oh ok, you're definitely just repeating extreme right-wing propaganda now. Thanks for clarifying that.

"poor refugees" is left-wing propaganda. Right-wind is anti-islam, terrorists...
In half of OECD countries, including the UK, the employment rate is higher among migrant men than among native-born men:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/13/male-employment-r...