[wallace_f]

>He made the situation far worse. Under Obama we have increased police militarization, expansion of the surveillance state, unchecked abuse at CIA black sites, consolidation of executive power, new undeclared wars, and more.

It appears that the majority of Americans are very focused on the election drama and inconsequential distractions while the elite in this country can do anything they want, raping children and getting away with it. You think that's an exaggeration, don't you?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/who-is-jeff...

One of Bill Clinton's best friends with connections to Bitish Royalty was convicted for raping children. Many said he should have been sent away for most of his life. Served 13 months, special cell, nights only, allowed to leave from 7am - 11pm. Officers in charge of investigation resigned. Imagine what people are not getting caught for. This is too insane to be true.

[75j]

I'm well aware of the Clinton's (and Trump's) connections to Epstein. I am very curious how the newer revelations of their connections to Laura Silsby, and of Podesta's connections to people like Dennis Hastert, will turn out. I don't want to form any strong conclusions yet, because some of the recent "pizzagate" claims are relying on thin evidence, but nothing would shock me anymore.

Here's another elite getting special treatment after raping his three year old daughter:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-r...

Here's Blackwater founder Erik Prince (not necessarily someone I trust in the slightest) making some enormous claims about the investigation into Anthony Weiner's laptop:

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-r...

I never thought I'd see the day where I'm citing Breitbart and Erik Prince, but reality is stranger than fiction these days and I'm not sure what the hell to believe anymore.

[wallace_f]

>I'm not sure what the hell to believe anymore.

Exactly. So just bear in mind, when the war against independent media is won, your children won't have to worry about that. Then they will be told what is appropriate for them to see and hear, and by consequence, what to think.

Yes there's a lot of really shit people out there with a website and news headlines. That by itself is not a good reason to throw away the first amendment and grant the government and largest corporations the right to control what people see and hear. What's even more troubling, is there's no evidence that the majority of "fake news" is even what the mainstream media says it is. If you read this and don't believe me:

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/18/the-stark-contrast-betwe...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12997038

[75j]

You're preaching to the choir :) I find it totally revolting that the response from the left to Trump's election is to blame "fake news", as if it's possible for an algorithm or even a very intelligent human to determine with certainty what is real and what is fake, and as if the largest media organizations haven't themselves been pushing "fake news" for a long time now.

[wallace_f]

Yes, it is revolting. They're doubling down on their strategy, and with that we lose more of our civil rights. For fuck's sake will this train wreck be stopped?

Independent news is already marginalized and criminalized. Amy Goodman and Glenn Greenwald have had that happen to them. Wikileaks is being attacked like a criminal organization. Once all the people like that are dealt with there's nothing left. Rotten to the core.