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by fatdog 3505 days ago
Stoicism is fundamentally subversive to the Hobbesian leviathan that has been constructed from within the post-enlightenment university system. It is the foundation of western morality and ethics, (the Bible borrows heavily from it).

Stoicism is not taught in public schools because it would make citizens ungovernable. Most education today is about training dependents, where stoicism teaches a kind of spiritual freedom. No grand conspiracy or anything. When education was elite, students learned elite ideas. Now that it is common, for cohesion they must learn common ones instead. Universities wouldn't have survived centuries if they produced graduates who would overthrow their governments, or obviate them entirely.

To cosmopolitanism, great and principled men are dangerous and anathema. Irony is that its most prominent works were by the rulers and elites of city states. Some people on the alt-right spectrum have taken that strain and created a kind of genre-philosophy out of it, like what John Williams is to classical music, some alt right thinkers are to classical philosophy.

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With all due respect but this is ridiculous. I guess you forgot the irony tags. Most (now famous) stoicists where governors or in high ranks. As such they were utmost conservative. Stoicism is the art of being governable despite of you thinking it all sucks.
I'm not sure I agree. If I understand Stoicism correctly a Stoic wouldn't work on changing the system or getting into a better position himself. A real Stoic at heart would therefore be just as good as a believer in your system.

The reason why it's not widely taught may come from that Stoicism hasn't growth wired into it, like Christianity or Islam has. If a Stoic is content with a world outside of his power, then he has no need to convert others to Stoicism.

I tend to agree with both you and OP in different ways. Perhaps this Epictetus quote will contribute to the discussion:

>I must die. Must I then die lamenting? I must be put in chains. Must I then also lament? I must go into exile. Does any man then hinder me from going with smiles and cheerfulness and contentment?

> It is the foundation of western morality and ethics, (the Bible borrows heavily from it).

What is "it" here? And if it's the Bible, can you point to other resources to explore that connection?

> "Stoicism is not taught in public schools because it would make citizens ungovernable."

Could you please explain how?

stoicism underlies modern cbt therapy and military training(really any bootcamp).