[duaneb]

There is no single method of protecting privacy; VPNs are privacy against commercial-level actors.

Tor has its own bounds, but people should use that, too. I generally think the internet is barely usable over TOR, but I don't need state-level privacy.

My point being is that these are valid tools with valid uses, and people should understand and use them, NOT that VPNs are anything other than a way of encrypting and proxying traffic.

[pbhjpbhj]

>I generally think the internet is barely usable over TOR //

I've only used tor browser (adding to the noise!), nothing beyond web. Could you go in to what makes the internet "barely usable" over TOR, do you mean speed or is there other things you're trying to accomplish that can't be done?

[duaneb]

It's really just a speed thing—it's not worth the anonymity tradeoff for me.

Of course, maybe I should put my money where my mouth is and use it to improve it for people who DO find the tradeoff worth it.