[NetStrikeForce]

Tor has zero to do with privacy and everything to do with anonymity.

[24gttghh]

Does anonymity not imply privacy?

[DiabloD3]

No, due to browsers leaking data and state actors controlling tor end points.

They still know know someone out there is doing something, and can build ad profiles and threat profiles on them, they just can't link those profiles to you easily: that is anonymity.

Privacy would be inability to build useful profiles.

[24gttghh]

Interesting. But if someone could remain anonymous, even with a profile being created for that "anonymous entity" and there is nothing tying that anonymous profile back to a real person, that would still seem to be private to me. If the anonymous profile could be connected to a real person, that would seem to be neither anonymous, nor private.

[duaneb]

Is that ever possible? Every interaction is going to have side channels and fingerprints.

[DiabloD3]

You can't entirely defeat it, but you can eliminate, or disassociate, as many things as possible.

[eeZah7Ux]

Nonsense. Protecting traffic from nosy ISPs and carriers is exactly privacy and it's one of Tor's stated goals.

[NetStrikeForce]

Plaintext over Tor is still plaintext.

[eeZah7Ux]

Of course, but your ISP is not going to read it.

[ryanlol]

More so than PIA? Also make sure to tell the Tor project that, all of their marketing material disagrees with you.