[babbeloski]

I cut my teeth on Ember at a marketing company in 2013, and actually found my current job through acquaintances made by attending a weeklong Ember training session in Boston (led by yehuda and tom). It had been a great fit for me at the marketing company because the apps I was developing were more restful oriented crud apps. apps with a lot of routes that were more or less their own thing (not too much shared state).

The company that I joined was using Ember, but their app was more of an analytic dashboard and it didn't really have more than a handful of routes. the amount of views and logic and state that lived on each route / controller was insane. Also, between the few routes you really needed to share state and things got very messy. I'm still with the company today, and the app's routing is still controlled by ember, but we have switched entirely to react + redux and are a lot closer to being off ember completely.

The real boon for us has been the single source of truth and the connect function from react-redux. Basically any component can just declare the data it relies on via store query functions e.g. getLabelsForUser(state, userId), which breaks you free from the uber painful process of passing properties down the entire view tree to child nodes.

I also got a lot better at developing when I started developing for react, because I was no longer writing framework code, I was writing and utilizing my own functions and abstractions.

I'm not saying ember is inferior, but of course there are trade offs to both. I absolutely love yehuda and tom, they are so prolific, but I would be interested in seeing how ember apps fair when there are only a couple of routes but a ton of view logic and state; where does the state live and how is it coordinated. How do you coordinate data across the app hierarchy? Asking because I really failed at that 2 years ago and ended up with a mess, it definitely felt like uncharted territory. Would totally accept developer error.

[hybridcivic182]

agreed - checkout the official redux bindings for ember (a cargo cult of the connect api from react-redux)

https://github.com/toranb/ember-redux