[rbanffy]

> thanks to Apple now we expect beautiful electronics

I expect that since I was a kid. I blame my mom, who got us a beautiful, now classic, Braun Atelier TV set (adapted to PAL-M) through a friend in the German consulate (importing stuff was problematic in Brazil by the late 70's).

[ethanbond]

How many people owned Braun TVs? Or Braun anything?

How many people own something by Apple?

No one is pretending that good design didn't exist pre-Apple. It's that good design wasn't a dominant force in standard mass consumer markets.