[bjcubsfan]

The Lenna image that is drawn is originally from a nude image in Playboy [1]. It causes me to associate your work with sexism and pornography. I'm sure not everyone makes this association, but why not use a free stock image or a great work of art for the demo?

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna#Controversy

[randyrand]

>why not use a free stock image or a great work of art for the demo

Because a stock image is not standardized and has not been a standard for decades like Lenna has.

It's just about impossible to go back in history and change all the research papers and recompile all the algorithms and update them to a new image.

Of course we could still do it if enough people cared. But do we? is pornography morally bad? What about cropped pornography like lenna? Do the majority of people even think pornography is sexism? If it is sexism, then does that inherently make pornography bad? is all sexism bad? Is it bad that men are attracted to females/vis-versa and that sexually biased attraction exists? To me I would answer in the negative to all of these.

[OOPMan]

While I personally feel like porn is dubious (primarily due to the exploitative nature of the industry) I feel like this whole controversy is way overblown.

Before this thread I had no idea said controversy even existed. As far as I knew the Lenna image was just a pretty decent photo, not the result of cropping a playboy cover.

I guess the idea that a derivative artwork can be seen a unique artwork in its own right doesn't mean anything anymore...

[randyrand]

> (primarily due to the exploitative nature of the industry)

Could you elaborate on this?

[OOPMan]

It's no secret that there is a lot of exploitation happening in the industry. I'm not sure how you need it elaborated?

If you think that everyone in the porn industry wants to be there and loves their job then you're missing the wood for the trees...

[fogleman]

Someone else mentioned this and I agreed, so I already replaced it before seeing this comment. The Lenna image did make a good demo, but so do other images.

[pinum]

The flower example is much less interesting than an image with a human face, i.e Lenna.

It's a minor matter, but it's a shame you felt the need to remove the image when it's so useful and relevant.

[fogleman]

I find faces a little problematic actually. Since facial recognition is such a huge part of our brain, it always seems like Primitive is ignoring the face too much and spending time on extraneous details. (I've previously experimented with weighting some areas of an image more than others in the algorithm because of this.)

I think the flower works well, but I might replace it yet again if I find an even better demo when I have more time to spend on it.

[OOPMan]

Until this thread I didn't even know this whole "issue" existed.

[NTripleOne]

It doesn't; as per usual it's just an SJW making a gratuitous leap to associate an innocent thing with a bad thing.

[bjcubsfan]

Thank you!

[Semiapies]

Upvoted (as with all your other posts here) because you made a perfectly valid criticism that the program author agreed with and adopted, but the geek boys got typically defensive.

[imode]

I don't think you're going to have any effect simply due to the 1. complexity of the image, as it's a real photograph, and 2. the complexity of colors and hues in the image.

there's a reason why it's seen as a "standard test image", and not as some fodder for sexism. it's the above plus historical baggage.

[preek]

Which Lenna image are you referring to? I can't see any picture that resembles a naked or otherwise exposed woman.

[bjcubsfan]

The OP agreed and replaced the image. It wasn't a nude due to cropping. It was the same as on Wikipedia here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna

[a2m]

SEXISM AND PORNOGRAPHY lol