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by codebeaker 3498 days ago
Did you reply to the wrong parent? I wasn't making any statements about the quality of password generation.

I was replying to address two of the three points that these people invested 6 months to build YAPPM (Yet Another Proprietary Password Manager).

As is typical of developers they've solved a problem that _probably_ didn't need to be solved. With a more product orientated mindset a business plan, and some market research probably would have preceded six months of engineering effort.

The "more beautiful" is subjective, I'd argue that having only one platform targeted makes it much easier to build an app in-keeping with one platforms HCI guidelines. I happen to use a Mac, an Android phone, and a Linux desktop, thanks to WINE I can use 1Password everywhere, and knowing that the format is public, and documented, and there are 3rd party implementations I don't need to worry about AgileBits ceasing to exist.

I'm left seeing some developers making the same mistakes that I have made when building a product before finding out if the world really needs a _subtly_ different app to solve an already solved problem.
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nixgeek 3498 days ago
"So… apparently it took me over 5 years to launch Secrets "

https://twitter.com/pfandrade_/status/730681656496001024

I think the developer invested nearly 6 years into it, and the comment about 6 months was time elapsed since initial release and doing the Show HN. It sounds like it was a spare time project for an indie developer.

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pfandrade 3498 days ago
Exactly. I've been building this for years on my free time.
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codebeaker 3498 days ago
Don't take my harsh criticism personally. I too enjoy to build things for the joy of building, and I respect your achievement. I just doubt the world really needs what you built, perhaps because I'm not your target audience, and I understand the trade-offs I made when choosing to commit to 1Password that I don't feel like any alternative is compelling.
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pfandrade 3498 days ago
None taken ;). I understand your point of view and hopefully we can iterate on the foundation we've built and make a more compelling argument for you in the future.
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homakov 3497 days ago
No, I just made it clear for everyone, that open or not, data format doesn't matter as long as binary is proprietary. And I would never ever use proprietary things for critical things like password manager, even as pretty as 1password is.
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