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by Grishnakh 3500 days ago
>If our new president fulfills his promises, friends of mine will be cataloged, deported. My own hopes of US citizenship and the life me and my wife had planned for ourselves is now uncertain.

Are you sure about that? He's already backtracking on ObamaCare, saying he wants to keep parts of it, and the latest news about deportations is that he wants to deport people who have criminal records. Personally, I'm wondering why people who aren't legal immigrants or residents, and who have committed crimes (beyond speeding tickets...) are still here and haven't been deported yet. Who's going to moan about that? He's also making noises about figuring out who the "terrific people" are and keeping them here. Obviously, a lot of stuff he's said was said to appeal to angry voters, and isn't necessarily what he's going to do in office; I expect he's going to go back on a lot of his promises, but in a way that he can claim he didn't (by simply not going as far as implied; then he'll claim he didn't "mean that literally" or "didn't fully articulate the policy" or something like that). Call me crazy or overly-optimistic, but I'm thinking now that he's going to water a lot of stuff down, in an attempt to keep his popularity numbers very high, while still getting some things done that he thought needed to be done.

>As a progressive in the midwest, I did not do enough to campaign to the large group of Trump-voters in my immediate family, friend group and neighborhood.

There was absolutely nothing you could have done to change the course of the election, unless you campaigned a lot to get more people to the polls in the Dem primary to vote for Bernie. Once Hillary was anointed, it was all over: too many voters simply were not going to vote for her, no matter what. Just look at the turnout numbers: about 4-5 million fewer people voted this year than in 2008 when Obama was elected, even though there's more eligible voters 8 years later (greater population). A lot of people simply hated Hillary and voted for Trump out of spite, many voted 3rd party (though many of those votes were angry Republicans), but tons of people simply didn't vote. The DNC has only itself to blame for this, so if you're mad about that, I suggest you dedicate your campaigning efforts to reforming the DNC.

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I'm not, rationally anyway, worried about mass deportation of illegal aliens - there are constitutional measures in place to prevent those, like illegal search and seizure, that a conservative court will uphold. My specific concern with deportations is that congress will pass a bill where the federal government no longer recognizes states rights to marry homosexual couples, and that a more conservative supreme court will uphold it.

That would remove grounds for residency for the wife of a very good friend of mine, since the USCIS uses the federal gov'ts recognition of marriage for visa proceedings, forcing them apart. I expect there are many thousands like them.

On the overall gist of what you're saying though - I hope you are right.

i think the 60 minutes interview tonight is going to calm a lot of nerves.

personally i think the trump presidency will be shocking in how normal it is. people are just completely worked up over his campaign persona which is understandable.

what people forget sometimes is that we have a political system in place designed to prevent dictatorships, exactly the kind of thing people on the left are concerned about with trump (and people on the right were equally concerned about with obama).

You may be right, but "Don't be worried that the president has promised to do horrible, horrible things--he was probably just lying to make racists happy, and anyway he changes his mind at the drop of a hat!" is not exactly encouraging.
No, it's not. Sorry.
>He's already backtracking on ObamaCare, saying he wants to keep parts of it

He said that over 6 months ago, that's not backtracking.

>unless you campaigned a lot to get more people to the polls in the Dem primary to vote for Bernie.

That would not have changed anything. There was no primary election, it was rigged. Perhaps try reading those leaked emails the media was telling you not to read.