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by tmptmp 3506 days ago
No offense taken. I feel humbled. Indeed, your argument supports my view.

I have deep and very high regard for the people who are able to apply ML to fields like DNA analysis or NLP which can take the dreaded "Turing test".

I stand nowhere in the ML arena, but I had tried once and got a good shock of my life: how hellishly difficult the ML can get and how quickly. I really feel humbled. If anything, I learnt to appreciate the width and depth of human brain capabilities. It seems entirely magical now to me how on earth does my brain process/understand such complex things like this very paragraph. Prior to some exposure to ML, I couldn't have appreciated this thing.

>>Just because you find something extremely challenging, doesn't mean it is inherently challenging.

Agreed. I never claimed it anyway. But the kind of problems, for which ML is being applied, the state of the art existing "analyzable algorithms" (like, finding approximate near-optimal solutions for TSP) are far from trivial. In addition to this, we must realize that the ML solution must "beat" these algorithms hands-down in "non-trivial" cases. All this makes ML extremely difficult.

I agree that for real world (and not necessarily state-of-the-art) ML applications, you have to handle many more fields in addition to these 3 fields. All I say is even these three things, when taken together, are very complex things to handle.

edit: typo

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I know a simple upvote may (and perhaps ought to) suffice instead of writing this, but I feel compelled to comment on how impressed I am that you responded to "You might want to adjust your ego downwards a bit" with such class and humility. Truly refreshing, truly commendable. I'm using it as a learning experience, because my initial reaction on reading that comment was highly negative and I sincerely doubt whether I would have been able to summon the kind of response you did.

On a morning where I woke up feeling anxious and worried after the events of Monday, this was a small but appreciated little reminder that there's still hope.

I deeply respect the humility of your response, even though I personally would have responded with a simple downvote.

I was curious about what you do, so I visited your HN profile to find more details. As a HN user - and a Muslim - I believe that it would be more useful for yourself and others if your profile listed something about you and where to contact you, rather than a wall of text arguing for why Islam is evil.

Anyways, I hope you have a nice weekend :)