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by vishalzone2002 3502 days ago
Again such a wrong headline. He did not say that at all. He pointed out specific ideas of Trump that he was against and those are the ones that any sane person would be against.

Clickbait titles can be very harmful.

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> those are the ones that any sane person would be against

That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power.

That aside, I'm glad to see that some leftists are starting to come around to the idea that through trying to fight bigotry, they themselves have become the bigots. I'm not saying Donald Trump is right when it comes to issues of nationalism and immigration, but very intelligent and well meaning people exists on both sides of that debate. I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon, Trump will seem like a walk in the park compared to what extremist movement will come up next.

I don't think it's elitism, it's people simply living in a different world.

If you have been left-leaning, you have been living in a world where Trump's policies are scary, racist stuff that belongs way in the past.

If you have been right-leaning, you have been living in a world where white people have been under attack for the last x years, and Trump is offering respite.

The left just didn't realise the extent of people that believed that lie. It's not elitist, it's just huge surprise - people are saying things and supporting things we thought were sorted years ago.

If a candidate came out and supported reintroducing slavery, and they got half of the vote, people would be understandably surprised. This is the light version of that.

> The left just didn't realise the extent of people that believed that lie.

Believing what lie?

That the rights of minorities come at the cost of the white male.
> That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power ... I'm afraid that if we don't start a dialog soon ...
This. It's not about trump, it rather what comes after trump.
"That's the kind of elitism that put Trump into power."

As opposed to the kind of elitism that Trump himself embodies in every pore, which is just fine and dandy.

He quotes from the email. Was this not true?

If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here.

"this statement" = "As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States."

Basically, if you don't feel like you can be part of the "everyone here at Gruhub [who] will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life... in the United States," you don't belong. Nothing about the act of supporting Trump, per se.

What he says at the core is perfectly fine. His mistake is politicizing the message when there is no need for that and hinting at a connection between Trump becoming president and that the people who voted for him likely don't support what is written in the e-mail.

From an outsider's perspective: The reason for that might stem from the fact that this election was fought like a war, as in, they demonized the enemy. This was especially strong when it came to Trump. So now that the election/war is over, some people can't go back to view the "other" side in a rational way. For them, that side is still exactly everything the media told them it is and I believe that is the case here.

Update, here is a link to the original memo. It does in fact contain this phrase.

http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...

Grubhub has lost my business today because of this.
This statement being "I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States"

I wonder what happens if somebody tells him "I voted for Trump, and now I'm scared and feel personally exposed".

I don't know how to view this. Clearly Matt wants to protect his employees from bigotry to not make them feel scared. But now the Trump supporters may feel scared. In this company, are they turning from a perceived oppressed minority into an actual one?

It's all very paradox-head-explosiony, and there aren't good answers.

The statement is well put. It is differentiating between the behavior and the person.

Doing some quick reading comprehension stuff:

- The demeaning, insulting and ridiculing BEHAVIOR has no place.

- I reject the POLITICS of Donald Trump

- shield our community from this MOVEMENT (i.e. the aforementioned politics)

He clearly laid out values of Mr. Trump then proceeds to explain how espousing them would result in a bad fit for his company.

More specifically, here's what cannot be derived from his email:

- "If you VOTED for Trump you're fired." As hard as it is for me to understand, I do realize one may have other reasons why he/she voted for Trump.

- "If you support Trump, you're fired." This one is murky but one may support some of his actions while rejecting others.

Do you really think that someone who voted for Trump, and now fears for their employment in the context of a hard-left industry and hometown full of people freaking out and making wild threats, is going to carefully parse the letter in this fashion and decide they have nothing to worry about?

Imagine you got this letter from your boss. Would you then happily stroll up to him at the water cooler and tell him how proud you were to vote for Donald Trump on Tuesday?

Thanks for wording this :
Read the full email (second half of the linked page): http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-...
Reasonable people can read between the lines.
Unfortunately, clickbait titles are what people have rallied under.