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by ilolu 3501 days ago
After seeing this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o (posted on reddit), I really believe no one took Trump Presidency possibility seriously. Everyone believed their bubble. Now when their bubble burst, they are just blaming everyone else.
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This isn't a personal attack, but I think your choice of language shows just how pervasive that thinking was.

Very nearly half of the electorate believed in a Trump presidency enough to mark him down at the ballot box. Those people aren't "no one". Simply looking at the Trump presidency as a lack of voter turnout because people were in their own personal bubble fails to give those people and their ideas any credence.

If we are going to have a real conversation about diverse ideas in this country, it needs to include all of them, not just whatever happens to be popular at the moment. Maybe some ideas turn out to be irreconcilable, but we should at least try to understand them and recognize that they exist.

May be I was not clear in my language. I was talking mainly about main stream media not believing and laughing at people who even suggested that. And now the media wants to blame various reasons/people for Hillary's loss.

I too believe that people need to understand the diverse ideas leading to voters voting for their candidates. And I also hate the present media trying to shame 60 million people as racist and sexist etc for voting for Trump and not even trying to understand that people can have different priorities and reasons.

That video is what most of us were thinking, yes, but I now see that there were people who called it, they just couldn't say it loudly or repeatedly enough to be taken seriously because they would be shouted down and ostracized, exactly as happened in the video. The parent just said it. Scott Adams was working his persuasion theory (ok, he is one who wasn't afraid to say it loudly or repeatedly). There were others in quiet little corners of the internet who believed that Trump supporters existed en masse but had retreated into the woodwork and would come out to prove the polls wrong.
And Adams has taken a hit in the pocketbook for what he's pointed out, besides being branded as an out-to-lunch loon. Good for notoriety, I supposed, but not so much for the feel-good motivational speaking gigs that he used to rake in.
That's pretty much how I've lived the past year. Even close friends would descend into personal attacks they knew were completely incorrect in their zeal to deny that trump was a force they didn't understand.
A lot of people are now trying to get Keith Ellison as new head of the DNC. There are arguments for and against, but this video is the single best argument for.
That is amazing
this one is mind-blowing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQitEXGyLus. Seriously, watch it, it's amazing.
Even more amazing stuff you have to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEddipbpkw
The word condescending is not enough to describe that. That is hatred and disgust in the form of laughter.
Could you give us a few sentences summary for the lazy or headphoneless, please?
This was on 7/26/15.

Dem Rep Keith Ellison : Any body on the democratic side who is scared of idea of President Trump, better vote, get active. Because this man has got serious momentum and we should be ready that he will be leading the republican ticket.

Everyone else in the panel laughs at him.

Keith Ellison says Trump has momentum and a chance of winning the Republican nomination, gets laughed at by dumb talking heads