[UniversalBlue]

I am not sure why the debate on whether or not men and women have the same level of intelligence is still ongoing. It is obvious that men are more intelligent than women and the few studies that dared experiment on this proved this right. Women have an advantage up until a certain age (I think 12 or 14 y/o). Afterwards men crush them.

Men also have a higher deviation. There are a lot of geniuses and a lot of idiots among men. But in either case, as long as we live in today's society filled with "feel-good" and "political correctness" ideas, you won't see any definitive study being conducted because people in reality don't want to know the results. Because the moment it's recognized that blacks are dumber than whites or that women are dumber than men, this will change the society profoundly and people are just not ready to accept "the ugly truth".

This is really keeping back all of us. Science should be above all this PC bullshit... and yet, here we are...

[qznc]

> It is obvious that men are more intelligent than women and the few studies that dared experiment on this proved this right

That goes against my/common knowledge. Off to Wikipedia [0]. The higher variability of intelligence for males is undisputed. If there is a difference between the averages is an open discussion. A revealing quote:

> Most standard tests of intelligence have been constructed so that there are no overall score differences between females and males

So genders have equal intelligence by definition. It seems consensus that men have better visual–spatial abilities. Since tests can balance this out, women must be better in other areas (which?).

Ultimately, the problem is the definition of "intelligence". Just like with AI.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligenc...

[bloomca]

This is not only about PC, it will shake the whole society, so to publish such results is simple dangerous and unacceptable – I feel the situation is close to artificial keeping of some jobs, just to decrease unemployment.

Also, I think it doubles by the fact that mens are really encouraged (one can even say "forced") to do extraordinary stuff, to get money, wife, respect and other social approval. For women, they will literally never be ashamed for the life outcome.

[UniversalBlue]

Could we say that a women's anatomy is some form of intelligence? It's undeniable that women, due to their biological nature, have a higher "appeal" and they don't really need to do all the "dirty work" a man has to do to be on the same level (get more money, get more power, always be improving...)

[jazoom]

You may be right but the problem is, were those 'smartness' tests decided by men? What type of smartness are we talking about? There are different types of intelligence and on average men and women seem to be good at different things. It's hard to compare things that have pros and cons in different areas. Where one is green and crunchy the other is orange and juicy.

[UniversalBlue]

I completely agree. I am not saying women are "complete idiots" or that men are "all geniuses". I am a firm believer that women and men have a higher intelligence in different "fields" (for lack of a better term). It's us, as a society, that define what kind of intelligence is more "useful". Apparently being very good at logic, reasoning, science, tech and anything STEM is "a sign of intelligence" that is considered useful and that can bring our society forward.

In 100 years society might decide that some other kind of intelligence is more important and men and women will reverse their roles in terms of "intelligence".

[SamReidHughes]

> Women have an advantage up until a certain age (I think 12 or 14 y/o). Afterwards men crush them.

That matches my experience with math contests from 6th grade up through high school. Lots of girls were there in "24 Game" contests, but they disappeared. Another thing I noticed was that the relative ranking of boys moved around quite a bit. I had a couple of classmates that were quite competitive with each other in middle school -- but then starting in high school, one moved way up in the rankings, the other didn't. All I can say to explain it is, puberty activated something.