[mc32]

I think you overestimate it. People who go into the military are more conservative than liberal, on average. They are more patriotic on average and on top of that they are part of the _federal_ government and take orders from them.

I don't see many, or any significant amount going rogue and having a mutiny to please the desires of elites in California they probably have little in common with. It's not like the military is made up of mostly elite-college educated graduates who argue over what makes a good grind for poured over coffee at what temperature and humidity, or what are really authentic sessos tacos.

They are also likely not into the virtue signaling game.

[Hyperborian]

> People who go into the military are more conservative than liberal, on average.

In-group loyalty is paramount to conservatives. Family and community first, and all that.

> They are more patriotic on average...

Exactly, and that supports my argument. If California declares independence, then the patriots from California will either side with their homeland, their communities, the places where their families are... or be traitors to their homeland, community, and family.

What do you think is the more likely thing for a conservative to do?

> I don't see many, or any significant amount going rogue...

If it reached the point where California declared independence, it would be those who sided with the US who were the ones "going rouge".

You are completely ignoring, most importantly, the issue of family. A service member from California almost certainly has their family in California. Your suggestion is that a significant majority of service members would side against their own family. That is what siding with the federal government in the even of California declaring independence would mean. Does that really seem likely to you? That they would side against their own family and home? Especially for a group that tends towards being conservative?

Think about it.

[mc32]

I hope you're just being argumentative and obtuse on purpose. I'd wager most Californians in the US armed forces have greater allegiance to the country than to the state. First and foremost they see themselves as Americans and secondly as whatever state they are from.

People in the armed forces are US military, not CA military, so going rogue would be the ones going against the US. The logic is easy to follow.

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And you're ignoring the fact that the family of a conservative service member is most likely conservative as well.