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by just_had_tea 3510 days ago
> And then most junior managers never end up seeing it. Took me a while before I did - I liked my boss, even, but then they left and someone new came in, and the difference was night and day. Being able to come into a new place and figure out what details to focus on and what to not, identify common problem areas, identify people to delegate to and trust, get upper-management support for you when necessary, figure out where you're still uncomfortable and how to get you to start stretching yourself there... it's not stuff I knew I was missing. And I could've gone another decade without knowing it, probably!

Perhaps a silly question, and definitely tangential, but do you have resources / pointers on where to learn about these kinds of skills? Or is that what MBA's are for? (sounds snarky but meant sincerely)

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Peter Drucker & W. Edwards Deming These are the two best management thinkers of the 20th century and they are largely ignored today.

Here's your chance to engage in some information arbitrage and profit.

Drucker wrote A LOT. Assumption from your question: you have yet to gain much, if any, idea about what good management is. If so, The Daily Drucker [1] is a good, easily digestible entry point to the entire body of Peter Drucker's work.

Deming came from a statistics, systems, and manufacturing background, which at a glance, makes his work seem from a different world. That couldn't be more wrong. His principles are broadly applicable. Toyota and much of Japanese industry post-WWII learned from Deming and built their businesses on his principles. The easiest place to start with him is with his 14 Points [2].

Read a bit. Compare it to what you have seen or not seen in your work experience. Read more.

I spend a lot of time thinking about management and the more I learn, the less convinced I am that there has been anything truly new since these two thinkers.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Drucker-Insight-Motivation-Gett...

[2] https://www.deming.org/theman/theories/fourteenpoints