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I think that says more about you than everyone else. I would walk halfway across town for slightly better bbq. Ultimately what is there to life than improving the quality of your experience. The issue is what consitutes better BBQ is completely subjective. So we might start from opposite sides of town and try and get to each others nearby BBQ ribs place. That's just human nature. With respect to "frameworks" some of this tends to be kind of centric to how you program. For the last decade most of my work isn't within any framework because its algorithmic with only a need for string IO and some parsers. Perl 6 for that is the framework.