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by mvrekic 3510 days ago
Because good ol' USA literally just elected a fascist.

Cliches of comparing Trump to Hitler are cliches for a reason.

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>Because good ol' USA literally just elected a fascist.

As of right now the counts are showing a plurality of voters selected Clinton. What chose Trump is our antiquated election system that weighs rural voters more per capita.

I'm no Clinton supporter--I despise the woman--but if I didn't live in NYC I'd have voted for her. I didn't bother because the system is set up so any extra votes in NY don't matter.

If I were a Trump supporter I'd stay home for similar reasons.

Are clichés you don't agree with also clichés for a reason (the internets also claim Hillary as another fascist, not just Trump)?

So, that opinion sounds a bit dangerous to me. You'll have to offer a better reason for thinking he's a fascist than relying on clichés.

There are a lot of objective parallels between the rise of Hitler and Trump. When people are comparing him with a facist it's not because they think that tomorrow he will build concentration camps but that he uses the same rhetoric.

Hell in big lines you can compare the arguments that a Hitler used to get in power against that of a Trump and see the same stuff popping up again and again.

Against the elite, the fault of a specific group, talking about deportations, bringing jobs back lost also by foreigners, inward views, derogatory views against foreign countries,... . The list goes on.

We should respect the choice Americans make but when the world is reacting anxious it's about more than simple cliches.

I'm getting slightly tired of the gaslighting on HN. Trump is not a fascist because of a difference of opinion. He's a fascist because he's a fascist. Sexual assault is also not a difference of opinion, it's a crime.
So far as I know there isn't any outstanding warrant for him and he's not sequestered in an embassy --so I'm a bit surprised by this since I didn't see the same reaction. You see when someone in the community is accused it's easy to defend them, and it's also easy to accuse someone when we dislike them.
The word 'fascist' is not the same as 'Hitler'. They're not the same thing. Fascism is an ideology that mixes corporatism with authoritarianism. From wikipedia:

"Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[7] Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[7] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[8][9][10][11] Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[12]"

Being a fascist doesn't mean there will automatically be warrant out for you, or that you have committed some sort of genocide.