[mc32]

As someone aptly put it on twitter (Nate Cohn), the "white working class" is voting like a minority block--and why would they not? The elites have ignored the working class (white and black) for ages and when they do think of them, white (and other) elites look down at them with the contempt of 'white privilege' while they, the elite whites, sit comfortably in their protected perches rarely exposing themselves to insecurity.

It's possible this is a consequence of overplaying identity politics used to try and counterbalance Trump's followers' politics. In other words the working class had their identity unintentially forged in the scrum of identity politics.

[venomsnake]

It is not only the white working class - she captures Latinos and Blacks with a lot lower margins than Obama.

You cannot take a person's vote for you for granted. Last week a life long anticommunist in my country voted for the communist candidate - he just said "fuck it, I want to see the face of the ruling party hit the pavement".

And a lot of whites obviously got fed up with being used as an intellectual punching pag

[douche]

That's the thing that has struck me the most about the Clinton campaign. It's been incredibly lazy, as if Clinton were the anointed one who simply had to waltz to the White House. Not wanting to debate. Not putting in the work of campaigning, at least compared to Trump's marathon schedule. The arrogance and condescension at having to even be involved in the race against her opponent.

[AnimalMuppet]

To put a word on it, I thought that she felt entitled to be president.

[mc32]

Well, She's not going to get the same energy from black voters as Obama --Obama was once in a lifetime unifying and exciting effect on the black electorate. As for the Hispanic vote, not sure what happened there --except there are more than one kind of person of latam descent wealthy, middle-class, Cuban, Mexican, undereducated, Americanized, some who still feel more Latin American than American, etc.

[venomsnake]

Blacks are also not monilith block. I can tell you what happened - parts of the communities showed the Dems that they do not protect their interests enough - sadly in two party system this means burning the house to the ground.

[retreatguru]

Trump runs as the anti-establishment candidate and with his charisma does a good job selling it. His candidacy reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.

[edblarney]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but he is no idiot. He's a 'populist genius'. The leaders in 'Idiocracy' were truly idiots.

He was 'charismatic' in kind of a perverse/uncliassical way ... enough to motivate enough people to tip the scales.

I think we will finally see the 'real Donald Trump' when he starts doing the actual work. I'm very interested, but honestly, I'm worried, I think the risk is high.

[mc32]

I dunno, I think that kind of thinking is what likely sunk Hillary's campaign. Discounting the working class as undeserving, as the ones who meekly assume the role of punching bag for all ills we cannot ascribe to anyone else.

[Frqy3]

The DNC's mistake was misunderestimating (sic) Trump. The media played their part too.

[icantdrive55]

I think the working class was really tired of Globalism. I'm as liberal as they get, but building in the cheapest country always bothered me.

I get hammered for this, but we buy Apple products. We pay a premium. We are told Apple has to build overseas, in order to sell us products at their low prices. Then they have the gut wrenching corporate problem of too much cash?

I'm sorry--it always bothered me.

That said, I'll be shocked if Trump succeeds in bringing back manufacturing. Those senators are not going to raise Tarriffs, or do anything to upset their corporate lobbiests.

[sangnoir]

> I think the working class was really tired of Globalism...I'm sorry--it always bothered me.

It's not just globalism - it's global competition. Even if the US repeals NAFTA and other trade agreements and economically isolates itself, competition from Japan, China and Germany will remain.

The golden age of American manufacturing wasn't possible just because Glabalism wasn't in existence - it was possible because there was no competition since countries were rebuilding in the aftermath of WWII

[rjbwork]

>That said, I'll be shocked if Trump succeeds in bringing back manufacturing. Those senators are not going to raise Tarriffs, or do anything to upset their corporate lobbiests.

True, but one could say he now has the bully pulpit from which to rail against those same senators for whatever they will refuse to do with him.

[jjoonathan]

Trump isn't going to bring back manufacturing, but he's also not going to double the size of the H1B program. I'm glad I didn't vote for him, but I'm also glad he won :/