[wavefunction]

I don't find him particularly charismatic. I'd probably punch the dude in the mouth if I had to deal with him and his attitude in person.

But your points about populist economics are the bigger cause I believe. But then I'm a Bernie supporter who knew he could steal that issue from Trump. C'est la vie.

[ethbro]

I think pg's quality could also be termed "dynamism", which Americans have historically been very drawn to at the polls.

If one feels that the current economic outlook is not good for oneself, then I can absolutely see preferring a candidate who seems excited in proportion to the perceived challenge. And I would chalk the advantage there to Trump.

[inimino]

Sounds like you're just not his audience. Would you at least agree that he's much more charismatic than his opponent?

[Moshe_Silnorin]

Populist economics is about as useful as populist physics.

[farright]

The fact the so many progressive's response is to want to "punch the dude in the mouth" is exactly the kind of oppresive political correctness Trump voters are rebelling against.

These scenes probably garnered even more support for Trump's rallies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc

[api]

I know a number of Trump supporters. The issues are outsourcing, outsourcing, job losses due to cheap overseas labor, and outsourcing, in roughly that order.

Few people on either side actually care enough about PC to sway an election. This is a rebellion against the economic effects of globalization on the working class. Look at Michigan and Ohio.

I also agree with the parent that Trump is not all that charismatic.

[inimino]

Not exactly political correctness but it is contempt. I think the contempt for Trump and his supporters by the other side explains a lot of both the result and the incorrect predictions in advance of the election. A lot of the country literally could not imagine a Trump win.

[farright]

The contempt stems from political correctness. Political correctness isn't some superficial outrage, it's the genuine belief that people who don't hold progressive beliefs are bad people who need to be punished. Trump can't convince progressives that his views are reasonable, but he can show that these views can't be repressed anymore.

[wavefunction]

You think punching someone in the mouth is political correctness?

I didn't say anything about his politics, which you of course ignored because you wanted to trot out some inanities based on generalities of people you don't even know.

[farright]

When you said "I'd probably punch the dude in the mouth if I had to deal with him and his attitude in person." I assumed you were including his political views.

I hadn't accounted for you just being a generally violent angry person.

[AnimalMuppet]

Trump has an attitude and an approach to dealing with people who disagree with him. His (public) interpersonal style rubs me very much the wrong way. I understand the temptation to want to punch him, and it's not because of his politics. Nor is it because I am a generally violent angry person. It's because Trump is (in public) a bully, and I deeply resent that style of interaction.

[farright]

Ok I'm starting to see this. I guess a good example is how he acted towards Jeb especially in the primary debates. I still think that responding to Trump's verbal style with physical violence is wrong.