[nixos]

> Microsoft is selling services more.

Maybe, but what I'm saying is that:

Apple costs, is closed-source but (somewhat) cares about privacy. Google is free, (somewhat) open-source but actively doesn't care about privacy. Windows costs, closed source and actively doesn't care about privacy.

In other words, with Google you're not the customer, you're the product. With Microsoft you're the product and you have to pay for the privilege to be a product.

[baldfat]

I have a strong negative bias vs Apple and everything they make.

One thing is Apple is not a closed source company. Though it is a mixed bag they have made some good contributions to the Open Sources world. Though their Walled Garden is YUGE

https://developer.apple.com/opensource/

* Bonjour

* Webkit

* Swift

[rubber_duck]

I think they are the biggest driver behind LLVM projects (LLVM/Clang/LLDB) as well which is a huge value to OSS too.

[nixos]

Though those contributions aren't strategic.

As of now, most of Android APIs are in AOSP. How many Apple APIs are?

[bpye]

Microsoft is a lot more than just Windows.

[michaelbuddy]

Microsoft doesn't care about privacy? They stood with Apple against FBI so you know. They are more reliably data protective than Amazon or Google in their agreements. They don't know what your data is on the cloud for example. Amazon stole Target's data and used it against them.