[zanny]

That and several System76 notebooks and the Dell XPS one are fairly high quality. They might not meet the Macbook standard, but a lot of that is just bragging rights at the end of the day anyway.

You really don't even need to install Ubuntu anymore. Other distros, yeah, but you also know your hardware is fully supported at least.

[jm547ster]

I'm hearing mixed reports on System76, issue with hw compatibility with the pre-installed OSes and the hardware itself just being a rebrand of other machines

[base698]

I saw a bunch of horror stories on Reddit. I'm definitely off the Mac train currently, so I hope I find an alternative.