[vsergiu]

I don't like reading articles like this one. I hate discrimination and I am amazed that in 2016 we still have it. I am creating a website that lists companies that are hiring Latinos. Post your tech job here https://goo.gl/forms/CVIMrhigDXicaSUM2 if you are excited working with Latinos.

[placeybordeaux]

Creating a website that only caters to a given ethnicity is extremely discriminatory.

[ebfe]

Who cares? It has absolutely no effect on you, while helping his group of people.

The world would be a better place if people worked on improving their own communities as much as they do policing to make sure nobody else is improving theirs.

[placeybordeaux]

I don't care too much, I just found the statement "I hate discrimination" was incongruent with making a site that offers jobs to a specific ethnicity.

[ebfe]

Ah, I read that as saying that he hates discrimination against himself.

[vsergiu]

It's not. It just helps Latinos find jobs easier. There are a ton of sites for female in tech and no one complains.

[jimmywanger]

Everyone complains. If you're a white or asian male you get absolutely no help with getting hired in tech, getting trained for tech jobs, etc etc.

And by starting a list of companies that hire Latinos, you're implying all other companies don't hire Latinos. I cannot think of a single company who openly discriminates against Latinos, so it's a false premise. It's not like Jim Crow days, where you'd maintain lists of restaurants who would serve black customers.

And the statement "If you are excited working with Latinos" is horrible. I'm excited working with anybody who is competent, easy to get along with, and can teach me things. Why would you be specifically excited about working with Latinos?

[wwweston]

> Everyone complains. If you're a white or asian male you get absolutely no help with getting hired in tech, getting trained for tech jobs, etc etc.

The argument goes that if you fall into one of those groups, you are generally helped by being what a lot of people think someone in that role should look like, at a minimum unconsciously and in some cases consciously.

It's not a full articulation of the dynamic behind people's backgrounds and what happens in a hiring process, and so it might not be the best idea to orient initiatives/activism entirely around that, but it's a pretty reasonable point of view.

[jimmywanger]

> The argument goes that if you fall into one of those groups, you are generally helped by being what a lot of people think someone in that role should look like, at a minimum unconsciously and in some cases consciously.

That applies to every single occupation on earth. For instance, it is very unlikely that I will be hired as an English teacher, even though I speak perfect english and grew up in the states.

It's just funny that people want to practice selective diversity. "Hey we want clean high paying tech jobs! But we also don't want to encourage women to become sewage cleaners because those jobs aren't cool. What about the diversity in basketball, both college and pro? Shouldn't there be boot camps targeting asian males to increase diversity on campus?"

[placeybordeaux]

I personally don't find either of them offensive and won't complain about either of them, but I do find them discriminatory. You and I apperently have a different definition of discriminatory. I personally find wikipedia's definition close to mine:

"discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit."

If you are just posting jobs that explicitly are welcoming of latino candidates then it's not discriminatory, but if you encourage only latinos to apply to said jobs then it is. (at least in my mind).

[vsergiu]

I am posting jobs that welcome latinos and/or anyone else who is competent.

[placeybordeaux]

Fair enough, that doesn't sound discriminatory to me (not that you need my permission). Good luck!

[whitegenocide]

Shouldn't companies be hiring anyone who is qualified, latino or not?

[fataliss]

In a perfect unbiased world, sure. Reality is quite a bit different sadly.

[Retra]

That's easy to believe when you don't say what "qualified" means. For someone to be 'qualified' for a position, it only need be a good decision for that company to hire that person, which may well be a factor of how the company is perceived by the public.

[incompatible]

I guess there will usually be plenty of qualified applicants for any particular position. Typical hiring processes may give scope for picking the one that will fit in best culturally, which would be the opposite to diversity.