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by inimino 3518 days ago
Is it somehow hard to understand the difference between temporarily avoiding pregnancy and becoming permanently unable to have kids? You don't have to be "pro-birth", whatever that is, to understand how upset someone would be if they signed up for one and got the other.

Obviously these men signed up for an experimental protocol and presumably were made well aware of the risks. Nonetheless dismissing this as possibly "win-win" is spectacularly tone-deaf at best.
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gaur 3518 days ago
> understand how upset someone would be if they signed up for one and got the other.

Is it somehow hard to understand the statement that some men (not all men) would be OK with the outcome? I for one am never going to have biological children, so I don't particularly care whether I'm sterile or not.

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inimino 3518 days ago
It's not hard to understand, it's just totally irrelevant. Let's say one percent of the people taking a temporary contraceptive (rather than just having a vasectomy) happen to also not care if they are made permanently infertile. Meanwhile, another one percent get this side effect. These aren't going to be the same one percent.

The fact that there may be men in the first group is totally irrelevant to the experience of the second group.

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Scarblac 3517 days ago
Well, let's say you're going to have sex. _At that moment_, do you care whether you're sterile or not? Because these people probably are, but it's not certain.
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