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by fizzbatter 3518 days ago
So what? you don't have to innovate to be a success, that's where a lot of HNers get stuck imo.

Sure, i'm not calling Slack amazing - but i very clearly said i use slack, love it, pay for it and recommend it. I used Dropbox too.

I don't think anyone here is claiming Slack isn't a massive success. Nor that the product is any less great because it's not innovative. A comment like:

> This time we are saying this after Slack has already established itself. :-]

seems to suggest "we" are somehow wrong.. but i'm not sure where. Is my above statement somehow wrong? Or are you simply linking success and innovation where as i am not?
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reitanqild 3518 days ago
>> This time we are saying this after Slack has already established itself. :-]

> seems to suggest "we" are somehow wrong.. but i'm not sure where.

Thanks, it was just an attempt to not talk down to anyone even if I disagree.

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reitanqild 3518 days ago
I agreed earlier today.

Rethinking it I think they might have been really innovative, but more in sales, marketing etc than in pure technical terms.

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Latty 3518 days ago
The general response in the thread was hoping that Slack would get gutted and dismissing it as trivial. Not being 'innovative' isn't a sin. Thinking there is nothing to learn from slack sounds like a mistaking to me.
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SomeStupidPoint 3518 days ago
But MS already operated a widely used webchat, profile, and community network, before social networks were a thing. As usual, MS did a meh implementation ahead of the market, got scooped by a bunch of slick implementations, and will come back a few years later with a relatively solid enterprise offering.

MS is going to bundle LinkedIn with a Slack-clone tied to their CMS and AI chat systems, and provide an easy-to-scale-in-private-cloud platform to enterprise. Part of their Azure smart services.

That's all people mean: Slack did a pretty good job, but it's very similar to stuff MS has done before, and there's not really a secret sauce trench. So MS will probably be able to win a lot of the enterprise market.

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GFischer 3518 days ago
Well, isn't what you're describing the Teams software that prompted Slack's letter?

Only tied to Office365, not Azure and LinkedIn.

https://products.office.com/en-US/microsoft-teams/group-chat...

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reitanqild 3518 days ago
This was my feeling as well.
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