[BlackAura]

> Let's see if there's any intellectual honesty here

Have you tried looking, before just assuming that such things don't already exist?

I mean, a simple Google search will find plenty of industry groups, in multiple countries, dedicated to supporting women in all of those industries. They encourage women to pursue careers in those industries, do advocacy and education, and work with the industry to try to fix the problems that cause the lack of women in those industries. This is true for pretty much every industry that was traditionally male-dominated.

Same goes for men in traditionally female-dominated industries.

None of these efforts are as high profile as business or tech. Doesn't mean they don't exist.

[chongli]

Sure, but if those efforts are directed towards a goal of 50/50 equality of outcome then they are doomed to fail barring a totalitarian takeover of our society. A cursory perusal of western countries reveals that the more egalitarian a society is -- with Scandinavia at the top -- the more lopsided the gender differences are across many industries.

Look, I'm not saying that many industries don't feature heavy discrimination against minority populations. We definitely do need to address that in a variety of ways. I just don't think it can be accomplished by fiat. Forcing people to do things against their will does not make them more tolerant; if anything, it makes them bitterly resentful.

[HaloZero]

Even if they are initiatives to have inclusiveness into other fields, I think the throwaway account has a point about how in computers it's a bit more about money but more importantly also about influence.

The software we create can be used by millions of people. If all that is dominated by white men, then there are limitations to that. I would advocate that a diverse workforce allows for that more than anything else.