[jomamaxx]

"Controlling what my own mechanical device does with the information it receives from other people's machines. Even if the internet had no ads and no tracking code and no malware anywhere whatsoever, there would still be a need for the technology to block and change the way in which my computer handles the things sent to it by other computers before showing them to me. "

This is not true at all.

You see ads all the time in apps you have on your mobile device (i.e. non browser) - and there is nothing you can do about it. Is the world freaking out over the consumers ability to 'control which ads come up in a specific app'? Not really.

[pdkl95]

> Is the world freaking out over the consumers ability to 'control which ads come up in a specific app'?

They should be. Unfortunately, most people don't understand what a Turing machine is, and so it is difficult to explain why it is important to fight back against the people - like you - who are waging a War On General Purpose Computers[1].

I'm sorry if your business model relies upon most people not using all of the capabilities of their General Purpose Computer. I suggest updating to a business model that is more compatible with modern technology, because trying to prevent people from controlling their own devices is a civil war[2] that will cause increasingly worse problems into the future.

[1] http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html

[2] http://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html

[problems]

A few recommendations for you:

https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=ad&fdid=org....

http://repo.xposed.info/module/tw.fatminmin.xposed.minmingua...

Never seen an in-app ad on mobile personally. No one is freaking out because it's a solved problem already.

If those don't do it for you, write an Xposed module to strip it like http://repo.xposed.info/module/ma.wanam.youtubeadaway

Don't underestimate people who hate ads, especially video ads.

[jomamaxx]

"Don't underestimate people who hate ads, especially video ads."

If you don't want ads - then you have to pay for the apps.

Get it?

This has nothing to do with technology, ad-blockers, advertisers or anything else.

It's not even at the level of 'economics'.

No pay / No ads = no content.

None of you teenagers have been able to counter that point yet.

> 99% of Apps and Websites with content would disappear if there was no ad revenue or payment.

I can't believe that any of you are finished school and have jobs, because all this talk of 'turing machines' is laughable and incredulous.

[problems]

> If you don't want ads - then you have to pay for the apps.

Some apps don't even offer an ad-free option. I'll pay if they provide me value, I won't pay if they don't, simple as that. This used to be a more standard model called shareware, but it kind of died out in the mobile app decade.

> No pay / No ads = no content. > None of you teenagers have been able to counter that point yet.

Why can't I pay them just as much as the ad-revenue they'd earn from me? It'd be fractions of a penny per page, nothing like the cost of most of these sites paid models.

If they offered a reasonable payment model, I'd be much more open to it. But until they're willing to accept their real value per page view, I'm not interested in paying $10/mo for everything I use, when I wouldn't even provide them with $0.10/mo in ad revenue.

For now, blocking ads is the only option if you want to get a full internet experience without the ads, if enough people block ads that advertising is no longer a viable model and more viable models become available, I'm more than open to them. But we have to get the industry to that point where they're at the consumer's whim and not like it is currently where the consumer is at the advertiser's whim. The advertisers having all the power is not a good solution here.

[m3rc]

No, if I want to support the creators i'll pay for the app. If I don't want to see ads, I'll block ads. It's a false equivalency to conflate support with willingly subjecting yourself to ads when other options exist, and as you can see here most people are rejecting it

[TeMPOraL]

Ad blockers are a thing on mobile, too.

[domatic]

This is incorrect. A primary motivation I have for asserting ownership of my mobile (aka rooting) is system level adblocking. Adaway is what I use for this BTW.

Apps are free to work or not if I kill ads. I just shrug and either buy the app or use something else. I absolutely do not put up with the interface of my mobile looking like the Vegas Strip.