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by lostgame 3513 days ago
Unfortunately, Apple's done such a good job of keeping me locked to their software ecosystem I cannot consider this, though I vastly prefer the Surface hardware.

Even if I wasn't an iOS developer, my other two jobs are Audio Production/editing and Video Production/editing.

While I could almost happily toss Final Cut out the window (we all know what a disaster the FCP7 -> FCPX transition was, and my friends in the industry tell me Premiere is where it's at right now), I am highly, highly dependant on Logic.

I've been using Logic in some shape or form for more than a decade, I picked up my first Mac Mini G4 in 2004(5?) and proceeded to learn Garageband inside out and backwards, got all the Jam Packs (which are now included in Logic, they used to be $99/apiece and now all 6 are included in Logic for $199...go figure) and got completely used to making music this way. (I moved to actual Logic from GB in 2008-2009.)

I've tried Ableton, and can't get past it's convoluted UI and complete lack of bundled instruments (Logic comes with more than 50GB of included content, and recently added a phenomenal new synth called Alchemy), Pro Tools is expensive and almost requires better than top-of-the-line Mac hardware, etc, etc.

The amount of time it would take me to switch, and learn another DAW, after 10 years of experience, I'd never get back.

I can open Logic, pick up a MIDI instrument, select some of the phenomenal built-in sounds, get a USB mic and have a freakin' awesome track down in like a half-hour.

Possible with Ableton or Pro Tools? Of course. But I'm not about to throw 10 years of experience out the window.

Combine that with xCode and it's iOS-specific toolkit, Final Cut (which I'm finally used to) and I get this really shitty realization that I'm going to be stuck with this software for a long, long, time and am basically just at the mercy of Apple's business decisions.

4 comments

I'm was a similar situation, I love Garageband and there's just nothing that comes close on Windows. When my 2013 Macbook Pro started experiencing horrible wifi & bluetooth connectivity issues I decided to get a Thinkpad Yoga 14 (wacom pen input!) and a refurbished Mac Mini as my dedicated Garageband unit. Total for the two was about $1500.
Have you looked at Bitwig Studio? I recently switched to it from years of Logic use and I actually like it more, even on Linux (it runs on Win/Mac/Linux).
Second for Bitwig - I came from using Cubase (since '91 on an Atari) - and while it was a bit of a change, my workflow is much improved.
I think, personally, having worked at various music software technology companies, I'd prefer to try an open-source DAW if I'm going to move away, so I can modify it myself and add/modify features/UI/UX as I see fit.
Reaper then, even if it's not open a source, you can truly customize it!
Ableton Live Suite comes with around 90GB of instruments bundled. You'd get used to UI. I oscillate between FL Studio and Live depending on genre I am working on and don't mind UI differences.
Yeah, because I feel like paying CAD $750 for that when Logic is $200 and comes with it's own library.
Oh I know :(
You should probably start the transition off of Logic now, while it's still supported software.
Apple released several updates for it in the past year containing a lot of changes, indicating that development is active. Do you have information suggesting otherwise?
I'm in the same boat as OP, as I absolutely love Logic's built-in software synths and composition-friendly UX.

Care to elaborate as why you think Logic is a long-term mistake? You think Apple is transitioning away from support?

I think locking yourself into any single proprietary format is a mistake. I realize my comment came off as implying Logic is doomed, but if you're really worried about vendor lockin, spending an afternoon on tutorials and a few side projects in the new environment can really help build your skills, not just in the new toolset but in the old one as well.