[achikin]

> "There are developers who don't care about guidelines, or design. That's not a platform fault, is just that there are developers who just want the job done, even in a ugly fashion."

And that is the biggest problem in software world, that's why our computers are full of half-baked, ugly, poor documented and uncompatible programs - because someone "just wanted to get job done".

[wila]

That someone usually is the product manager.

[achikin]

Maybe I'm stepping on a mine here, but almost all software Unix Hater's Handbook is talking about was created solely by developers.