[Yodoshi]

Macbook pro (2014) and a windows desktop.

3 screens.

usually connect 2 screens to my macbook (hdmi & display port) along with my k70 keyboard and my g600 mouse.

Im mainly good, I keep my F keys when im at my desk, only when im mobile and about they go and never done any heavy lifting through that way.

I don't understand how people are treating this as if im the grim reaper taking a swing at the macbook pro 2016.

It's just many different annoying things that I don't see the positive side to losing, can someone point to the positive side?

[grzm]

I don't think you're the grim reaper :) Personally, I'm reacting to statements you've made like:

"there is no real option if you're developing for IOS"

"other macbooks don't seem the right type for heavy multitasking"

"the value proposition of a macbook pro is going down"

Those read like universal absolutes rather than nuanced criticisms. You do make a point with respect to adapters. I've been using Apple laptops since my first G3 (that's not me trying to display street cred, just trying to establish that I've been through a lot of different port changes over the years).

And that's why I asked about your current setup. If you're currently developing for iOS and it's working fine, then one option is to keep using what you have. If you have a legitimate reason to need to upgrade, i.e., developer tools you need to use are no longer supported for your machine, that's a legitimate complaint. If you want a new machine because you want the new hotness (and hey, that can be fun), but the new hotness doesn't match your expectations, well, I'm sorry you're disappointed. That however is different from "no real option" or "not the right type".

Another option for you to consider is buy one of the current gen machines or a refurbished model. Might be a compromise that works for you.

[Yodoshi]

Thank you for your insight (G3 is a long time), genuinely helpful and levelled my head out!

I never meant them in absolute terms, it's just me venting that im missing reasons to want this version (after always wanting a mac after any keynote in the past but never being able to afford when back then) after waiting a little while and just disappointed this time around.

[grzm]

That G3 was a beast :) Swappable batteries, drives, all kinds of stuff. And so heavy!

Glad to share my thoughts, and glad to help. I can understand the disappointment, too. I wish there were some MagSafe-like feature. I like the larger trackpad. I like the opportunities the Touch Bar provides, though I will miss the physical escape key and the hardware volume keys and brightness keys. Force Touch for the Touch Bar would be great. I'd also like to see more RAM available. But, that's not what's available now, and what I've got is good enough for at least another couple of years.

Hope you can find a good solution for your next system!

[jmiserez]

> If you want a new machine because you want the new hotness (and hey, that can be fun), but the new hotness doesn't match your expectations, well, I'm sorry you're disappointed.

This wouldn't be so much of a problem if Apple would just update their MBP lineup regularly. The real issue will crop up in ~2 years, where the only option will still be to get the current (by then outdated) MBP for probably the same price as it is now.