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Well there's the tool a "g-cramp" [which often gets miscalled a g-clamp] too.

Also tulle is like tuile, a "French" [to a British person] biscuit that often takes a cigar shape, like a sleeve.

But wasn't the parent/GP point that such aids don't exist for the person coming from Chinese but do aid those coming from other European languages. Seems to make that point.