[WayneBro]

There are definitely other biases. Macs simply can't do as much as Windows can in a business setting.

That's why companies like Disney and Google have to build their own systems management tools. I could not imagine running a financial services house, an insurance company or a warehouse without Windows.

Even simple software like remote desktop does not exist on the Mac. Yes the Mac has screen sharing but it is nowhere as good as remote desktop.

[Delmania]

> Macs simply can't do as much as Windows can in a business setting

https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/Office-...

> Even simple software like remote desktop does not exist on the Mac.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id7...

https://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

Where on earth did you come up with this belief?

[WayneBro]

It only works from Mac to Mac though. You cannot do remote desktop from Windows to Mac. That's typical Apple bullshit that will not fly in the enterprise. RDP also comes built into Windows where is you have to buy this from Apple.

Also for anybody suggesting team viewer… Come on that's a ridiculously expensive package that does not even work as well and it's not ubiquitous.

[Terretta]

> "It only works from Mac to Mac though. You cannot do remote desktop from Windows to Mac. That's typical Apple bullshit"

What are you talking about? Here are five ways:

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/remote-access-apple-mac-os-x-via...

TL;DR: Turn on the built-in open standard VNC server on the Mac, use a VNC client on Windows:

Mac OS X actually comes with a built-in remote management feature that allows other computers on the local network to access the Apple computer using the Apple Remote Desktop which we mentioned earlier. However, there is a setting where you can allow third party VNC viewers to connect and control the Apple computer. First click on the System Preferences icon at the Dock and click on Sharing. Click on the checkbox for the Remote Management to turn on the service.

Click on Computer Settings button. Tick on the “VNC viewers may control screen with password” and type in a password. Click OK to save the changes...

[Mithaldu]

VNC is pretty laggy to use when you could have RDP instead.

[pix64]

There's a whole lot more to business than Microsoft Office.

[nickff]

Apple hardware has been designed on Windows PCs (at least until the last time I read about it a few years ago). This is because the (best) software for electronic design has only been available for Windows, and the developers refused Apple's terms and conditions (despite being directly approached by Apple for a port). This was the cause for some embarrassment for Apple by people in the electronics industry.

[greedo]

You're speaking out of ignorance. There are applications like TeamViewer that are cross platform, if you don't want to use Apple's own Remote Desktop...

[stirner]

Windows' Remote Desktop feature is different from regular screen sharing. It's able to transmit data at a lower level than the actual pixels on screen, making it a lot faster.

[greedo]

And there's a Mac version distributed for OSX/macOS by Microsoft that's arguably superior to the Windows client. But I understand the RDP protocol. In a decent corp environment with a gigE LAN, the data compression benefits of RDP compared to TeamViewer or Apple's Remote Desktop aren't that necessary.

[slantyyz]

>> In a decent corp environment with a gigE LAN, the data compression benefits of RDP compared to TeamViewer or Apple's Remote Desktop aren't that necessary.

The performance gap is very noticeable even on GB LAN, especially as the screen resolution goes up. There were a couple of products on Mac that were almost as fast as Windows RDP, but they weren't cheap, and one of the two major companies (iRapp from CodeRebel [1]) went out of business earlier this year. I can't remember the name of the second company, but I think it came from an academia background.

1: https://www.coderebel.com/about/

[Thiez]

> The performance gap is very noticeable even on GB LAN, especially as the screen resolution goes up.

I find that hard to believe, I can play games like Rayman (that require reflexes and a low latency) over my steam link on a 100mbit network. Surely on a GB LAN there shouldn't be noticeable latency?

[Mithaldu]

Is steam link VNC?

I've played games via VNC, but only visual novels. In all cases i've known real games require special transmission protocols, which operate in a specific domain, and are a lot faster than RDP, which operates in a broader domain, and is faster than VNC, which is the most general solution.

[WayneBro]

OK you can focus on the little nuances of whether RDP is better or not on Windows or Mac. The fact is that becomes built into windows where is you have to buy it for the Mac. You also cannot RDP from windows to a Mac. And team viewer is ridiculously expensive.

Please ignore the other fact that I stated about how big companies have to build their own systems management frameworks for the Mac though. And I think you probably know that there is a ton of other software that just does not exist for the Mac. So you're going to end up writing your own and that is definitely not cheaper than buying it off the shelf and many many many cases.

[greedo]

Large corporations generally use JAMF Pro for managing fleets of Macs. It makes it pretty trivial compared to the hassles of using SCCM/SCOM for Windows desktops.

You can always use VNC to connect to a Mac, though that's not the best tool. If you're deploying and managing more than 10 or so Macs, the price for JAMF or other tools isn't an issue.

[vram22]

Any idea how? some sort of compression? other?

[disposablename]

Remote Desktop passes draw calls from server to client instead of screen-capping and sending bitmaps. Similar to remote X11.

[vram22]

Ah. May make a lot of difference - or would it also partly depend on whether the data (e.g. args sent with the calls) was raster or vector? Think I read recently that some versions of OpenGL do the same or similar. Not an expert here, but interested in the concepts and techniques.

[digi_owl]

And yet the boys over at xorg wants to throw that part of X11 out the window and use screen scraping instead...

[rbritton]

There's this[1] or are you looking for more functionality than it offers?

[1]: http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

[slantyyz]

ARD is functionally the same as RDP on Windows, but if you're used to the speed of RDP, it can be painful to use ARD even on a fast network.

There aren't many things that Windows does better than Mac, but in my opinion, RDP is definitely one of them.

[martin_bech]

You must be high.. remote desktop works on mac, teamviewer works on mac etc. Etc. Etc.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

>teamviewer works on mac etc

... at $809 a seat. I mean, just, ouch.