[spiffyman]

I'm uncomfortable with how willing I am (and others are) to just make/accept claims about how terrible the JS community is without evidence. In this thread there are tons of people saying JS devs don't understand CS fundamentals, write low quality code, and take their bearings from hype; that the "vast majority" of inexperienced people choose JS; etc. And I haven't seen any statistics on this or even a single example of such things.

I'm a Python guy who's working in Java at the moment. I don't particularly care for JS or frontend work, and I make no bones about it. But if someone were saying all this about the Python or Java communities, I'd be asking for evidence. And, frankly, I'd be pissed. So I think we should hold ourselves to similar standards -- don't just shit on a community because that's how you feel. Provide cases. And possibly even advice on how to improve!