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by aardvark291 3531 days ago
"six major political parties"

Things are a bit different over there...

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America's first-past the post system is pretty terrible and removes any real choice. Keep in mind the constitutional framers wanted to keep people who weren't educated from voting and even then, the vote was more of a suggestion (i.e. the electoral college).

America's voting system is undemocratic and next to useless. Australia's order of preference with instant runoff, New Zealand's MMP or any basic parliamentary system is better in that they promote choice, require coalitions and do a better job at representing various parts of the population. Returning to America was deeply upsetting for me, not because of the D/R debate during election season, but more because people actually think it makes a difference which one gets elected.

> America's voting system is undemocratic and next to useless.

If you're discarding the definition of 'democratic' where citizens vote on government, no country in the world is democratic. Representational democracies rule the world and—yes—are not democratic in the least.

I don't know why the world insists on using the word without meaning.

Germany isn't extreme. Because a party needs 5% of the votes to get any seats, only five of those six made it into parliament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_2013)

Compare that with countries without such a rule such as Belgium (13 parties elected in parliament (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_federal_election,_20...) and the Netherlands (11 elected (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2012), but, because individuals split off from their parties, currently 16 factions in parliament).

These countries _always_ get a coalition government. It's no surprise getting agreement on policy sometimes takes time, in extreme cases over a year (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–11_Belgian_government_f...)

> It's no surprise getting agreement on policy sometimes takes time, in extreme cases over a year

The US, with it's mere two parties, has been stonewalling for the past six years. Not a single policy, no, but a very hostile setup where little of substance can get done. It's a strange setup when your head of government and your control of legislature can come from opposing parties.