[M00n_Sl47r]

Long term kratom use can cause a dependence, and the withdrawals are very very similar to heroin/morphine withdrawals.

regarding your second point, I cant find any hard sources, but my experience has been that unless one is doing WAAYY too much kratom, both per dose and over longer periods of time. Unless you are already an opioid addict trying to use kratom to maintain and kick a harder habit (the well known use is as a transition from dope), you should NOT be doing kratom every day.. unless you're trying to become one of the aforementioned addicts.

On 3, definitely, it's a ridiculous misuse of the conception that natural is healthy. What if I told you to go out and do datura (Stramonium, iirc), or nightshade (makes you so pretty!). Both just as natural, arguably moreso considering you have to process kratom leaves, whereas you can go from finding a datura or nightshade family plant to eating it in seconds.

[Stanleymilgram]

This is ridiculous! First, please become informed before posting on a subject you clearly know little about. Second, in your "aforementioned" comment, you did not differentiate between uei and plain leaf kratom. This means you are either a "plant", or just a complete m. I know first-hand that coming off daily use of plain leaf kratom is a cakewalk compared to pharmaceuticals like methadone. Kratom is very similar to stopping your daily cup of coffee. You do not have 2 weeks of severe withdrawal nor do you have years in a state of PAWS. Also, if you think man made drugs like methadone are safer than natural substances like kratom, you need to head back to your big pharma office. Kratom is safe when taken in moderation. It will not kill you DEAD because when you take too much, it induces the users to vomit. It does not cause a complete shutdown of your cns! And when used daily for anxiety or other ailments, it is much safer than big pharmas "non natural" poisons. All big pharma concoctions can kill you and "accidental" overdoses occur every minute in the US on a daily basis. You are wrong and I question the sincerity of your comment.

[GordonS]

> withdrawals are very very similar to heroin/morphine withdrawals

Source please.

Anecdotal evidence from those that have gone through both heroin and kratom withdrawals generally say coming off kratom is extremely easy by comparison.

It's also worth noting that, anecdotally (and I include myself here), for many people coming off kratom is easier than stopping drinking coffee.