[flukus]

> If every environment is lousy and warrants immediate exit, perhaps the problem is not entirely with the environments

Most are like that IME. This is compounded by the fact that these are the companies most frequently hiring.

You've probably seen comments along the lines of 90% of candidates failing fizzbuzz? Remember those candidates work somewhere.

[romanhn]

Don't believe that FizzBuzz trope - there certainly are candidates that can't code their way out of a wet paper bag, but they are hardly the majority. I'll also point out that 90% of companies could care less about time/space complexity, optimized algorithms and data structures more complex than a hash table. Business apps are everywhere and don't require a fancy CS degree - some folks thrive in these environments, for others it's personal hell.

I guess what I'm getting at is that the onus for company/team/culture fit is on both the interviewer and the interviewee. Bad luck aside, there's no excuse for running into irreparably lousy workplaces time and time again.

[flukus]

> Don't believe that FizzBuzz trope

Don't believe it? It's not something I'm just parroting, it's something I've seen for myself, from people with more than a decade of experience.

> I guess what I'm getting at is that the onus for company/team/culture fit is on both the interviewer and the interviewee.

As an interviewee you don't have access to the single most important piece of information to make that assessment, the source code. When this changes then me and a lot of others will stop ending up at crappy companies.