[parennoob]

> Your bureaucracy makes American bureaucracy seem amazingly efficient in comparison.

Yeah, and I thought waiting at the DMV in the USA was a bit of a pain as a foreigner. :)

"Wait from 3am for the 1 of 50 tickets available that day" makes Berlin sound worse than even the third world country I come from.

[GunboatDiplomat]

The DMV is a pain as an American. Even if every worker in the DMV is diligent, helpful, and courteous, the DMV somehow conspires to make the whole process difficult. Go to the front desk. Fill out this form. Stand in that line. Get a stamp on the form. Stand in another line. Get another stamp, pay $5. Go stand on another line, get yet another stamp. Go back to the previous line, get photo taken, get endorsement on license. It's crazy.

[denzil_correa]

Check out the driving license process in Germany.

[parennoob]

Yes, but I was under the impression that getting a driver's license was kind of optional in Germany, with good public transport. Being a foreigner is not :)

[JBlue42]

Yeah, the DMV is probably the most difficult and time consuming part about getting a license in this US.