[mrcold]

Is that why the pay is shit? You can get a higher salary in Eastern Europe with a 5x lower cost of living.

Western Europe is horrible when it comes to the software industry. Underpaid immigrants that are just happy to live somewhere with clean streets.

There is no shortage. Companies are just fighting for the same set of naive students and juniors. And complain when their shit offers get refused.

[himlion]

Do you think the pay is really that bad? As a dev working in Holland I've got the feeling it's at the top end for Europe. I certainly never heard that cost of living adjusted salaries are significantly higher in eastern europe.