[namecast]

> These illegal immigrants take jobs away from Americans.

Respectfully: that is simply not how labor works.

'Illegal immigrants' may flood the job market with workers that are willing (or forced) to take lower pay than most Americans, work longer hours than most Americans, or deal with more hardships than most Americans - but it is the employers role to decide whether they'd rather take on the risk of employing undocumented workers than fixing these conditions. If an employer says "eff it, I'm willing to turn a blind eye and break the law if it means slightly less money spent on wages" - they're the ones at fault.

I'm trying to point out what might seem obvious: focusing on the immigrants here may feel satisfying, but if the employers are not compelled to ameliorate their behavior, then deporting every last immigrant won't change the situation.

[davidf18]

It is illegal to hire illegal immigrants but those laws need enforcing. It is the job of The Executive (President Obama) to enforce the laws passed by Congress. But Obama is trying to legislate in place of Congress to allow illegal immigrants to not only remain in the country, but to work here as well.

There was a recent Supreme Court case about the issue which left in place a lower court opinion stating that Obama did not have the right to do what he did.

Thus, while you are correct, it is a systems issue of our federal government refusing to do the job according to The Constitution and enforce the law that leads to the suffering of many Americans who have lost jobs to illegal immigrants.