[mschuster91]

Well Samsung, that's what you get for using non-replaceable batteries.

I hope that this desaster forces either phone vendors or regulatory agencies to mandate replaceable batteries. The EU got through with mandating micro-USB, after all...

[yladiz]

It's not fair to say that Samsung deserves this because of a non-removable battery. This could have happened with a removable battery too. Who knows the reason why this happened -- bad battery manufacturer, bad soldering internally, something wrong in the layout of pieces connecting the charger to the battery -- but it's unfair to say this is deserved because they removed something and added something in return, in this case water resistance.

[mschuster91]

I own a CAT B15Q, water-resistant, dual-SIM and replaceable battery.

Watertightness can be achieved without sacrificing replaceable batteries.

[yladiz]

Yes, but that still doesn't mean Samsung deserves it. The fact that they don't have a removable battery doesn't mean they deserve this, and it doesn't mean that the users who buy their products deserve this.

[MikusR]

So replaceable batteries dont explode?

[mschuster91]

They can, but you can separate the device from the battery in case of recalls, thus preventing natural resource waste.

Also, my Galaxy Note 1 battery blew up on me because I used a cheap charger. I simply took it out, disposed of it at a city waste center, and put in a new battery for 15€. Try this with a "closed" phone. Either you can do it yourself, which requires at minimum 3h time + specialized equipment (e.g. regulated hot air gun), or pay 100€+ to a service center.

Thanks but no thanks to fixed batteries.

[duskwuff]

I can't speak for the Galaxy Note, but when I replaced the battery on my iPhone, it took me perhaps twenty minutes with minimal tools (screwdrivers, suction cup, plastic "spudger" -- all supplied with the battery) and no prior experience. Could probably do it in half the time with practice.

[lucb1e]

When I took out my Samsung Note 2 battery it took me perhaps ten seconds with no practice either. Twenty minutes for replacing a component they know is going to wear out the quickest of all components is long and a dick move by the company.

[duskwuff]

To give some perspective, this was for a phone that was around 4 years old, and which had been sitting in a box fully discharged for a while, destroying the original battery.

Twenty minutes of work over four years is not a big deal.

[stiGGG]

Battery replacement on an iPhone? Give me 10minutes