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by givinguflac 3548 days ago
If you require IPv6 so crucially, you probably shouldn't be using consumer grade gear.
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I've been using IPv6 on a consumer-grade cable modem connection with a Cisco DPC3008 modem and a previous-generation Apple Airport extreme since 2012. There weren't even any difficulties getting it working.
There aren't any difficulties if you don't get it working either (yet). The Internet still works with no issues.
There are quite a few providers in the world that run Dual-Stack Lite (native IPv6, IPv4 is tunneled to provider-run NAT gateways) and they all hand out consumer-grade gear.

Since the OnHub only comes with Ethernet you'd have to put something between it and the wire anyways of course, but it then has to be more than a dumb modem, and you'd be forcing all traffic through the tunnel.

IPv6 isn't without problems, but many people use it without noticing, through consumer devices way cheaper than this. The ones complaining the most are the enthusiasts which suddenly can't reach their home server via IPv4 anymore.

My ~$100 Linksys router supports IPv6. What's Google's excuse?

Yet another device Google will sell, and then discontinue in 24-36 months.

> Yet another device Google will sell, and then discontinue in 24-36 months.

You don't know that.

Besides acquired products (Nest) and Android phones, Google has a pretty poor track record of long term hardware support. I can still get firmware updates for my 4 year old Linksys router.

I've been burned, and I refuse to purchase yet another Google device for a market they're just testing the waters in. I'd rather spend my money with someone who needs it to support their product, and that product is their business.

To be clear, you're saying they're just testing the waters with Chromium? Or with Fiber, which makes its own hardware STB/routers, or with this whole internet performance thing in general?

Chrome devices have 5 years of updates guaranteed. I have a cr-48 from 2010 which still gets updates (currently on -dev 56). How many times has there been a story on HN about RCEs unpatched for months or years in consumer routing gear? The fact that you purchased that hardware doesn't seem to be sufficient incentive based on the record. But when you have an incentive of a secure and performant internet, and also have the talent, infrastructure, and existing codebase to make something work and work well, you have economies of scope that make supporting it much easier and cheaper.

IPv6 is for everyone: consumers, businesses, whatever else exchanges packets.
That kind of thinking is 10 years out of date. Consumer broadband routers sent to subscriber homes for free support IPv6.
Gotta love easily NSA-dioded consumer gear which falls over under load, reboots randomly and doesn't play nice with standards.