[radiorental]

Chinese - put something on the phone

Americans - tap the network backbone.

What's the difference?

[tedunangst]

End to end encryption works over insecure networks, but not with insecure endpoints.

[radiorental]

I'm sure the NSA has something to say about that, at least with consumer grade encryption.

[tedunangst]

That's why I always use military grade encryption.

[radiorental]

> military grade

I see what you did there (o;