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by feklar 3549 days ago
Paper conclusion says the cost of running Vuvuzela is pretty high per month, so you would need a benevolent millionaire to make it happen.

As for signal what every prosecutor wants is metadata to show the court that user A was in communication with user B. The actual contents of the messages aren't important especially in a conspiracy case and user B is an informant, their word against yours plus metadata showing you communicating is good enough.

Besides forcing Signal to keep this metadata in the future, I wonder if they can just obtain it themselves by watching all traffic on their federated servers and timing it to discover communication networks.

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The cost of running Vuvuzela is dominated by bandwidth, and the paper used AWS prices to estimate the cost; purchasing IP transit directly would lead to about an order of magnitude reduction in costs (still non-trivial, of course).
Order of magnitude? 1Gbit on amazon costs 22k/month. Even an order of magnitude cheaper sounds pretty damn expensive, two orders of magnitude still isn't "cheap".

It's really easy to underestimate how big of a ripoff EC2 bandwidth pricing is.

A 10gbit unmetered server can be leased for under $3k a month. 1Gbit can be under $300 a month depending on the hardware.
1Gbit in Chattanooga, TN cost $350 a month. You gotta buy some servers and maybe a colocation fee. Way less than $22,000 a month. Actually, while I was looking that up, a recent press release says they're deploying 10Gbit to homes for $299 a month. Things may have improved on business side, too. :)
> 1Gbit on amazon costs 22k/month

Is this 1 gigabit of accumulated traffic, or sustained bandwidth guaranteed for an entire month?

1 TiB of accumulated bandwidth at DigitalOcean costs me $5/month. I am unaware of what sustained rates are given that tier of pricing, however.

1Gbit/s for a month, 328.5 terabytes.

On the expensive end you'd be looking at around $600 for such at $NOT_AMAZON, and on the cheap end you'd get it for "free" because a plenty of hosts have excess bandwidth.

DO doesn't separately charge for BW or enforce any limitations AFAIK.