[talmand]

No, you don't understand. I don't want to use tables for layout, I want to use tables to display a good old-fashioned table. A table displayed in an otherwise normally marked up page. That is what's getting the pushback.

I guess I could say I want to use table elements to layout a table, which would trigger the "don't use tables for layout" argument.

[scottmf]

They're misunderstanding what people mean by "don't use tables". And they don't know what they're talking about.

[talmand]

When I was informed of it, I responded with "they are wrong". We'll see how it goes.

[mountaineer22]

Is your intent for Section 508 compliance?

If the table cells have specific individual widths and heights, and contain a .gif or .jpg of equal size within them, then that is an inappropriate use of tables today.

[talmand]

This "no table for layout" thing is so strong that people keep insisting that I am saying table elements for layout. I am literally saying "using table elements for a table" and not "layout with a table". It is a table with tabular data in it, just plain text. It is a styled table, but a table nonetheless.

[chris_wot]

So... ignore them? If you want to use a table for tabular data, then please - use a table!

If someone whines you've used a table, then ignore their whining and keep using table markup for tabular data.

[talmand]

Well, ignoring the situation is not a solution to this particular problem.

[chris_wot]

If it gets really bad, just mock them openly. Sure, you might not achieve your objective, but you'll have fun not getting there.

[AtheistOfFail]

That's the normal way to do a table. Why import a dozen different libraries to render something that is HTML-included and renders in like 0 time because it's built right into the fucking browser.