[DominikR]

I read the other day that Sweden had to cancel the Earth Hour event where they turn of lights for an hour because the last time they did in 2015 many gang rapes occurred which were committed by refugees. (even 12 year olds were raped)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour#2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3499108/Earth-hour-c...

That's what you get when you let young women decide on anything related to the nations security. They are the one's who were holding the "refugees are welcome" signs, they are the ones who overwhelmingly vote for Socialists.

I live by the way in the EU so I'm also affected by all of this. Some might say it's heartless but if I saw today a women getting raped or beaten by a refugee on the streets I wouldn't even help her. A year ago she was likely one of those who was calling people like me (I'm against inviting millions to come to the EU like Merkel did) a racist in order to shut us up. Now live with the consequences.

[gambiting]

No offence, but dailymail links should be banned on HN. It's just a vile website that is full of BS on literally any topic it touches. Whatever gets them most clicks/sold newspapers, basically.

[DominikR]

Okay, let's just censor news that you don't like. I on the other hand live in a EU country that is the main target for these refugees and I can tell you this stuff (in particular rapes) is real and you calling it BS isn't going to change the reality of what is going on here.

[petriw]

Daily Mail isn't news, it's poorly researched clickbait.

Rape is horrible and I'm certain immigrants also rape, just as the natives do. But let's not kid ourselves, at least in my home country Sweden the number of sexual offences (including rape) have not increased significantly over time despite decades of scaremongering news about them, including on swedish state tv.

I base this on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Victim_surveys And in Swedish more recent: https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/valdtakt-och-sexu...

We'll see what the numbers for 2015 and 2016 say, but I somehow doubt they'll show a country in free fall despite 163k asylum seekers in 2015.

[kbart]

Statistics is easily tweaked or faked. There are already many cases of police in Germany and Sweden miss-reporting or covering up sexual offences by immigrants.

1. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-03/german-coverup-scan...

2. http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that...

3. http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/08/german-cops-we-were-ordere...

[petriw]

Statistics can never simply be read from a police database or similar. It takes serious work by good researchers to compile the data and interpret it. This is also why you can't compare many crime statistics between countries, rape being a fairly typical one.

The simple truth is that up until now no one actually cared and that is why it went unreported. Heck, the new years eve sexual offences will probably disappear among all the other sexual offences that go on every day that no one apparently cares about.

Festival groping is hardly a new phenomenon, maybe the new years eve thing is new but was it a temporary problem or is it a long term issue? No one actually knows yet.

[jazzyk]

>It takes serious work by good researchers to compile the data and interpret it

Ah, yes. The data need to be "seasonally adjusted" by high priests of the state, so that we, uneducated peons get the "appropriate" message.

Do you even realize how elitist your statement is? Sexual offence data is not rocket science, a lot of people can understand it quite well.

In Sweden's case, it would also help if the race/nationality of the attacker was disclosed (which, I heard, is not allowed in Sweden).

[vixen99]

And at what point some time ago did you decide it's vile or do you check it out everyday to ensure your assessment is up-to-date? Get down to specifics and your statement ('it's just a vile ...) falls to bits.

So, I wonder, which articles from today's Mail go into your 'vile' category? Aside from the human interest stories (I have a surprise for you. It's not a mainline news source!) there are a few articles by agenda-driven columnists and you don't have to read them in either the right-leaning Mail or similar pieces in the left-leaning Guardian. Are those columnists the irritating source of your vitriol?