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by deepwave 3557 days ago
Typical left-leaning article. In the totality of law enforcement shootings, the vast majority of people have been white, 26% have been black, the rest a mix.

Black Lives Matter is a false narrative.

Blacks make up 13% of the US population, but have a disproportionate percentage of young men involved in crimes. Young black men have no family life. As of 2016, 79% of all black children are born to unwed mothers. Those children grow up with no father present in the household.

No father equals MASSIVE instability. The ideal is a man and woman raising children together. Blacks lack this.

In almost every one of these shootings, after the dust settles, it's learned that the person shot had a record, had a warrant, was wanted for other crimes, was carrying an illegal or stolen knife or gun. The recent Charlotte incident showed the man was carrying a gun that was both stolen and illegal for him to possess as he was already a felon.

I've no problem with peaceful protests, but when your civil rights are no longer being civil, you lose your civil rights. If you start looting or damaging property, you get shot and deservedly so.

It's come to light in Charlotte that quite a few of the black people being arrested have out-of-state driver's licenses. This shows a growing trend. That the violence and looting are not organic. The local are being agitated by outside influences.

This is all being done by people with money, like a certain rich Hungarian in bed with certain high-level Democrats in this country. None of this is accidental. Professional agitators were found to be active in Ferguson, Charlotte, Baltimore, NYC, you name it.

Were I in charge and you were looting, I'd turn a tractor-trailer load of German Shepherds on you. Time to take off the gloves. Notice that in Russia, this never happens. Like him or hate him, but Vladimir Putin keeps a tight reign on civil discourse and political activities by the populace. People can peacefully protest, but when they start to act violently, they need to be quelled very quickly.

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If the problem is instability in black communities I don't understand why your solution is to crack down very hard on unrest. While it might be an okay short term solution I feel like this escalates the situation while not solving the underlying problem.
Maybe you are just trolling and trying to start a fight instead of starting a conversation, but on the off chance you aren't....

I'm proud to be an American. And in this country, our country, I have certain basic expectations for due process if I'm suspected or accused of a crime.

I am sure we have different perceptions of the men and women who have died. But perhaps you will agree with me, having a record, a warrant, or carrying an illegal weapon, even if that was the case in every one of these situations, which it is not, is not an executable offense in the United States.

Most of the protested deaths have been from traffic stops, not looting, but damaging property and stealing property doesn't seem like a good reason to shoot living breathing American people.

Law Enforcement captured the shooter in aurora, the shooter in that black church, terrorists both foreign and domestic, murders and serial killers, and they took them alive. Why should people die at traffic stops?

By your own numbers, African Americans are twice as likely to be shot and killed then their percentage in the population suggests. It doesn't matter why that is, even if we disagree on the cause, I think we can both say that the country can do better by it's citizens. It's fine to talk about the cause, but if you leave it at that, it's just an excuse.

As for Russia, I think you have a warped view. I am we are talking about a former communist dictatorship run with an iron fist. Unsanctioned protests, even by single individual persons, are met with heavy fines and jail time. Protests in Moscow are no longer allowed. Opposition politicians are arrested or assassinated. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/22... http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/01/05/new-normal-in-russia-p...

It sounds like you are getting a lot of your sense of what's going on from the news. That's a filter between you and the truth, pushing one agenda or another. People say that the Tea Party was funded by the Koch Brothers and outside interests too, and maybe some groups were, but funding doesn't create protests. I visited DC a few years ago when that movement was big in the news and talked with protesters there from the tea party, and got a sense of who they were. Americans who felt that things weren't fair for them. And I'd argue that, essentially, that's what BLM protesters are, just upset about different things.

Go out and listen to some BLM protestors, talk with them and more importantly listen to them, as fellow Americans, with an open mind and heart. Maybe you won't agree on everything, or anything, but talking to people with different views, open mindedness, honest debate about issues is why this is America, not Russia.

If people are looting they should be arrested and tried in our courts, not attacked with dogs. I'm taking that as hyperbole on your part.