[cstejerean]

Thanks for pointing that out.

I should have stated this in my comment, but I don't like C++ much (which is why I'd rather use Java over C++). But I absolutely love regular old C. It's a beautiful, simple programming language. I think C is a perfect language for implementing programming languages, libraries and operating system.

[trevelyan]

I quite like C++. Java is a nice language but is absolute hell to develop iterative web applications with at any reasonable speed. You need a sophisticated in-house division of labour to really use it effectively.

The real danger of the java language is that it's hostile to lean/agile development. If you're in a market that iterates quickly, that can be a real problem. If you work for a bank... less so.

[cstejerean]

And you find C++ easier for developing iterative web applications?

Just to make it clear, I will never use Java (or PHP for that matter) to develop web applications.

[procrastitron]

Actually, for systems programming (kernels and languages) I would want a language with a strong (preferably static) type system.